The Most Destructive Force to Mankind

Hands down Religion is the most destructive force know to mankind. Combined with racism and you have one tough bitch to handle. And if we are not careful religion will be the death of man. Every major war has a reason – expansion, wealth, power, greed but religion tops it all. Religion can destroy a nation and it’s people and if you though that religion is the reason for our morality – we have morals inspite of religion! The idea of a god was first created by thinking men as a means to explain that which we cannot explain but it has since evolved into something much more complex and dangerous.

Despite all the progress we have made as a species, we are still held back by the disease called religions. Imagine what all we could have achieved if it wasn’t for religions. We would certainly be exploring the galaxy by now! Religion is like a cancer; it spreads and fucks up everything in it’s past. As I type this some hindu fundamentalist leader is planning the next attack against what he thinks is “immoral”, some muslims are planting a bomb and christians fundamentalists are plotting to terrorism a non-christian community.

Religion keeps us from progressing. My family’s religion wants all of us to forgo everything and stay at temples, singing prayers and kissing the ass of some deity. Do nothing except that while our families are taken advantage of by fake “swamis” and give up our worldly possessions. Your religion does too. Most religious people don’t realize what the Bible, Gita, Ramayana, Quran, Torah really are – bad science fiction & fantasy novels! I like Star Trek – that doesn’t mean that I’m gonna be beam up anytime soon! Or apprehend someone because they violated the Prime Directive (lol, I am killing myself). Grow a brain!

“Imagine no heaven”!

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6 thoughts on “The Most Destructive Force to Mankind

  1. You and I have clashed on this particular topic before, and I doubt that we will ever agree upon it, but I think that you are painting only one side of the story here.
    Yes, religion can be found as the root of many issues today – but that’s when it is used in a particular way. But wait, who is it that uses religion to cause people pain – well, man of course! If there was no religion, then there would be no utopia as depicted in Star Trek. Man would use something else to cause the same amount of trouble. That’s just some people’s nature. So I would say that the most destructive force to mankind is man himself. Think of it like this – of all the animals on this planet of ours, man is the only one that kills for fun. Other animals kill to protect their young, for food, or even for control of the pack. We shoot animals for sport. What does that say about us?

    Coming back to religion – this is your opinion. One shared with many other people, and that’s fine. If I am ok with believing in God, and I am also ok with you being an atheist, then I have one simple question for you. What’s your problem? Why does your disbelief in God have to come at my expense? My belief in God has no impact on you whatsoever! I’m not doing anything to hurt anyone else in the name of God – I just choose to believe. Like most of the people out there. Extremism isn’t just limited to the religious.

    Before you start cursing up a storm here, consider this. I agree – that people use religion to cause all sorts of issues. Religious extremism was one of the reasons why we are sadly marking the 10th anniversary of the tragic events of 9/11 in just a week’s time. All over the world, you read of priests abusing children, of people forced to get married because of their religious (and oppressive) rules. What you have to accept at the same time is that a lot of this is up for interpretation. For example, no religion, no matter how it has been interpreted, asks you to kill someone who doesn’t follow your religion. That’s just how people choose to read into things. If you are not with me, then you are against me. If I read some of your comments about religion, I get the same vibe – that there is something wrong with me because I believe in religion. Is that fair? What about the folks who believe in religion, but are tolerant of others? Who go to their churches/temples/mosques/synagogues, etc, and do community service in the name of their local prayer spot? Do you condemn them too?

    I know that atheists are unfairly targeted by those religious groups that discriminate against what they consider to be “non believers”. Unfortunately, you are coming across as the mirror image of those folks – ridiculing those who believe because you choose not to. Remember – you chose your path – why can’ t we choose ours?

    I’m not knocking your decision to be an atheist. I’m happy that you’ve found something to believe in (or not believe in, if you’ll pardon the pun!).
    But please, all mainstream media religious fanatics causing issues aside, don’t tell me that there’s something wrong with me for believing that there is something better than man out there, that there is a a God.
    Bear this in mind. I don’t go to temples, although I have been in the past. I don’t go to churches, although I have also been there in the past. I pray to God every morning after I’ve had a shower, and I call him God. I recite the Gayatri Mantram before I pray, which essentially translated states “Awaken my discrimination, o lord, and guide me.” Oh, and before you attack that, remember that for the new Battlestar Galactica introduction, the Gayatri Mantram is what is being spoken over that music.

    I have friends who are Hindus, Christians, Muslims, Jews, and atheists. I don’t try to tell them how to be religious, and they don’t tell me. We believe in what we choose to believe. That’s fair, isn’t it?
    Or does that make most of us less than you because you are enlightened since you are not constrained by religion? If that is the case, then why do you look down upon us and throw stones? That’s hardly an enlightened viewpoint.

    Again – I agreed with you earlier – religion can be used in a really bad way, as you have clearly said on many occasions. However, you have completely ignored the fact that religion can be used for good. The difference in how religion is used comes down to one single thing. Man.

    The most destructive force to mankind – man.

  2. Hmmm once again I read your mind very clearly; I knew that you would choose to comment over here in this post. Dare say that I know you too well. Ok:
    I will agree to your point; at some level man is extremely dangerous and is the only animal that causes harm for pleasure. No other living creature hunts for pleasure and be even half as cruel as humans. Granted! We are a dangerous race and the most dangerous force that we have as our weapon is religion!

    Your comments : If I am ok with believing in God,and I am also ok with you being an atheist,then I have one simple question for you. What’s your problem? ”
    My problem is that religion screws up reality.

    “Why does your disbelief in God have to come at my expense?”
    How is my disbelief in God coming at your expense? Because I voice out my opinions? Isn’t that a little extreme?

    “My belief in God has no impact on you whatsoever! I’m not doing anything to hurt anyone else in the name of God.”
    Most moderate believers do not hurt anyone, granted. Doesn’t say here that they do.

    “If I read some of your comments about religion,I get the same vibe –that there is something wrong with me because I believe in religion. Is that fair? What about the folks who believe in religion,but are tolerant of others? Who go to their churches/temples/mosques/synagogues,etc,and do community service in the name of their local prayer spot? Do you condemn them too? ”
    Where do I condemn anybody? I hate the thought of any religion and all gods and people who do things in the name of gods to attain power, wealth, influence & take advantage of other people and stuff.

    And geeze Manoj thank you for pointing out that the British version (if I am correct the US version had a different/alternate theme music) of BSG had Gayathri Mantra as it’s theme music. So? I didn’t think it was relevant here.

    And if you say that “religion can be used in a really bad way,as you have clearly said on many occasions. However,you have completely ignored the fact that religion can be used for good. The difference in how religion is used comes down to one single thing. Man.”
    let me tell you something. Man made religion. It’s a tool created by man. A powerful tool no doubt. A force to be used. So I bring it back to my earlier point – the most destructive force known to mankind – religion.

    Manoj – glad that you have found something to make you happy. But you have proven another point to me about those who believe. I get this vibe from you; you always have to be right. You believe in a religions or a god so you are right and there can be no two ways about it. Unfortunately,you are coming across as the mirror image of those people who think that they are true about god and nothing else matters. And that’s always been true about you.

    Peace!

    PS- your blog link seems down. Will you get it up again?

  3. I knew that you expected me to comment, and I knew that you wouldn’t agree with most of what I said – which is why I put in a disclaimer at the top that clearly stated that I didn’t expect us to ever agree on this topic.

    When I made the comment about “at my expense”, re-read your commentary. Lines like “Grow a brain” is not something that you are stating with respect to religion, but rather the people who believe in it.
    Yet again you have chosen to only look at the negative aspect of religion, and let’s be truthful here, there is a lot out there. I even listed some of them in my comment. What I tried (and obviously failed to do) was point out that you seem to have only one viewpoint, and there is nothing to counterbalance it, i.e. in your mind religion has never done any good. That hardly seems fair, does it?

    Me – ?My belief in God has no impact on you whatsoever! I?m not doing anything to hurt anyone else in the name of God.?
    You – Most moderate believers do not hurt anyone,granted. Doesn?t say here that they do.

    I hope that you realize that the word moderate, or any such implication is non-existent in your commentary. That’s the point that I was trying to make – everyone who believes in God, no matter what the extent of their belief is tarred with the same brush here.

    Again – your condemnation is implicit in your statements. You don’t restrict your commentary to just religion itself, but include those that believe. Just as not everyone who believes in God is a good person, neither is everyone who doesn’t believe. Agreed?

    The BSG commentary (and the US version has it – not the British version, as far as I know) was only because I had written down what I did with respect to religion. That was all.

    I tried to point out that religion on its own is not always as bad as you make it out to be – man’s interpretation and misuse of religion is what shows us the darker side to it all. That speaks to the topic of your post – I disagreed that religion was the most destructive force – I said that man was. That’s not because I am in any way religious.

    Now with respect to me always wanting to be right, all I can say is bullshit dear cousin. Please re-read what I have written. I am not, and never have stated that religion is the only way to go!
    From my comment:

    I?m not knocking your decision to be an atheist. I?m happy that you?ve found something to believe in (or not believe in,if you?ll pardon the pun!).
    But please,all mainstream media religious fanatics causing issues aside,don?t tell me that there?s something wrong with me for believing that there is something better than man out there,that there is a a God.

    My issue was with you stating categorically that religion was bad, and that anyone who follows it is a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic basket. All I’m asking is why can’t I believe in what I want to believe in just as you should be able to believe in what you believe in? I even stated that atheists are unfairly targeted – at any point in my commentary do I make any sort of comment about the fact that you are an atheist in a negative way? I don’t see any – and that’s because I didn’t write any!

    If I had stated that you were wrong because you don’t believe and that I was right because I did – then yes, you can tell me that I always have to be right and that I “have proven another point to me about those who believe. I get this vibe from you;you always have to be right. You believe in a religions or a god so you are right and there can be no two ways about it.”
    It was nice if you to try and turn my comment back against me – with respect to the mirror image comment. But as I said, I don’t disagree with you that religion is used for many bad things, I just said that not everything (or everyone) who believes is bad. That was it. No comment about your choice to be an atheist. No comments about I know better because I believe. If I were to speak to a deeply religious person, they would probably find me offensive because I don’t believe as much as they do. Maybe one day I will choose to stop believing – who knows?

    I’m not sure why the link to my blog is down – I haven’t been there in a while – I’ll check it out tonight.

  4. If anyone really believes, I mean goes all out into god & and all that stuff, they really go need to grow a brain.

    About only dwelling on he negative aspects, yeah this post is about the ‘most destructive force’ and that’s why I dwelled on the negative aspects. Also even if there is some good being done in the name of religion, overall there is more harm done.

    “I hope that you realize that the word moderate, or any such implication is non-existent in your commentary. That’s the point that I was trying to make – everyone who believes in God, no matter what the extent of their belief is tarred with the same brush here.”
    If you feel that way, it’s because you read it that way.

    “Again – your condemnation is implicit in your statements. You don’t restrict your commentary to just religion itself, but include those that believe. Just as not everyone who believes in God is a good person, neither is everyone who doesn’t believe. Agreed?”
    I never said that just because you believe in or don’t believe in religion makes you good/bad/whatever. You are bad despite what you believe in. Evil is irrespective of what your beliefs are; you are evil because of what you do. But religion does help!

    “Now with respect to me always wanting to be right, all I can say is bullshit dear cousin. Please re-read what I have written. I am not, and never have stated that religion is the only way to go!”
    Hey, we have clashed on this on more than one occasion dude. The topics are different but the issue is still the same.

    “But please,all mainstream media religious fanatics causing issues aside,don?t tell me that there?s something wrong with me for believing that there is something better than man out there,that there is a a God.” – There is something better and we should strive to be that. But it’s not some supreme being.

    “My issue was with you stating categorically that religion was bad, and that anyone who follows it is a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic basket. All I’m asking is why can’t I believe in what I want to believe in just as you should be able to believe in what you believe in? I even stated that atheists are unfairly targeted – at any point in my commentary do I make any sort of comment about the fact that you are an atheist in a negative way? I don’t see any – and that’s because I didn’t write any!”
    – the answer to that is, re-read your comments.

    “It was nice if you to try and turn my comment back against me – with respect to the mirror image comment. But as I said, I don’t disagree with you that religion is used for many bad things, I just said that not everything (or everyone) who believes is bad. That was it. No comment about your choice to be an atheist. No comments about I know better because I believe. If I were to speak to a deeply religious person, they would probably find me offensive because I don’t believe as much as they do. Maybe one day I will choose to stop believing – who knows?
    I don’t people are born bad – well maybe Thambi – I always say that we are all all born innocent & then religion fucks us up. It’s all this external stuff that screws up our thought process. Man is good not because of religion & god but despite it. I never pegged you as being much of a believer so yeah maybe someday you will stop believing. If thats what you want.

    And you’re adding a ‘/’ instead of a ‘.’ in your comments, which is why I was unable to get to your blog. I usually open you blog from the Top Commentators section at the top.

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